Also, if you have Zelda doujinshi I don't have listed there: (and can't read it either,) if you wanted to donate scans to me (they'd have to be 300pdi so the little text can be read clearly) there is a very good chance someone will offer to translate them. (I'll pimp them more than my own too, to increase their chances.) You will always be credited as the donor of the scanlations on the site too. Or, if you wanted a bit of cash for the scans, there's some info on that page about that too. I'd like to see the cover and an example page or two if I was going to think about paying though.
Also, here's some little tidbits of manga info that might be of interest some:
One of the translators working on the project, Corinna aka: Rinael, let me know that the Phantom Hourglass manga should be out soon in a novel format. It sounds like it was done being released in the kid's magazine sometime near mid-December. or something.
And, my suspicions were correct! Another translator, a friend of a friend to the community, (I don't want people to bother them,) has tackled the interview of Aonuma and the Himekawa girls, who drew/wrote much of the Zelda manga; it states that it WAS Aonuma's idea to make changes to the story and to add characters. It says that he spoke with Miyamoto about this desire, and the girls said that they followed Nintendo's wishes on the matter. Also, it really confirmed that they did indeed do official art for the Wind Waker (the cute stained glass window looking stuff that NoA made wallpapers of.) And Aonuma also states that the Rito race, from the Wind Waker, were directly inspired by, and created because of, one of Himekawa's original flying characters from one of their earlier works. So, if you hate the way the manga deviates from the game stories; please don't, at least completely, blame Akira Himekawa for that

2-21-17: Some updates were made to the journal
I'm probably the only one who actually likes the manga's, even though they do have some flaws (ahem Ganty, and skipping things) But other than that they have great things! (Raven, Majora's mask original story) And I think Link is cute..
And also Aunoma was involved with creating Ocarina of time, Majora's mask, Windwaker and PH all of my favourite games...
D: I want to read that interview so badly!
I like the manga too :3 But yeah, I don't hold them to the games, I enjoy them for what I feel they are, which is enough for me. There is the part of me wishes that the LttP one could have had an end story more like the game, but I think Himekawa accomplishes a lot with all them in regards to art and conveying interesting emotions. & Link feels like Link to me and that's really the only character I think I'd be pissed if they didn't nail. (Just personally, since I don't have a real strong attachment to anyone but him, but I certainly feel that other people have valid points about the other characters)
I actually am collecting the english Zelda manga's now, finally after all these years I have Oot vol 1 and 2 and MM..
When are you going to put up this interview online? I'm so curious!
that's fucking awesome!
\i'll be supporting
I enjoyed the differences between the game and manga stories. It makes it a lot more interesting, and I think they pulled it off quite well.
And I DID suspected that the Rito race was based on that really nice OoT manga character (sorry, I don't remember his name anymore)!
Yeah, I believe it is that character. He had a weird name. I think Annie's translation of it, and Viz's, might be different too. I need to look that up
Were your suspicions that Akira did the artwork for WW, too? Because now that you mention it, I can entirely see that. Their stain glass pictures are so cute.
As for the games versus manga, I don't consider the manga as game canon at all. Despite Nintendo's okay (of course they had to give Akira the greenlight), or Aonuma's involvement.
Reasons being that the manga was post game storyline, and each respective storyline tell a different story in my opinion. As in, the feeling you get from each is very different. It's like a book versus its movie counterpart. eg, "That didn't happen in the book! Roar!" That's about as simply as I can put it. ;D
Yup, that was also one of my suspicions, because those window things looked like their more stylized style to me... I just wasn't sure enough :3
Yeah, I don't think it makes them canon to the series at all either. The main thing I was going for was ...In regards to the people who were claiming that Himekawa had no real creative involvement with Nintendo- that's been disproven now (in my eyes) as is the claim by some that in no way is there "offical" manga. I understand Official can be defined in a few ways... but: if you get paid to do something by a company and they tell you what they want, I'd personally consider it, soundly, official.
It seems that they had a sit down and Aonuma described to them what he wanted (they had never played the game, so I assume he or someone else really spent a good deal of time filling them in) and then they had to all agree on everything before they were hired. I just found it interesting that after Nintendo hired them for the manga that the game staff started to be inspired by the things Himekawa did. But inspiration can come from anywhere so, like with the Rito thing, I only take that as a cute bit of info, and not much else :3
I understood what you were saying, and the only reason I went directly to canon was because most of the debates about story deviation and legitimacy were rooted in is it or isn't it canon, applied to a game, or just in general.
I used to blame Akira, but I've always known Nintendo had to give an okay in order for it to exist, but now it seems if I'm to blame anyone, it's largely Aonuma, and random others at Nintendo for the atrocity that was the LttP manga, yes/yes? ;D I'm sorry, but that manga was horrific. The only thing I take as canon in that is the cute L/Z moments. The rest of that manga/storyline can burn for all I care. It didn't do one of the best games justice in the slightest.
Aonuma taking over Zelda for Miyamoto is really, overall, a hit and miss with me. His choices are very polarizing. I either love what he's doing, or I outright hate it.
The Rito are a great addition though, whether or not they're evolved from the Zora. Yet, I don't think they are, since Zora have been seen in more recent Toon Link games, or at least I do believe?
because most of the debates about story deviation and legitimacy were rooted in is it or isn't it canon, applied to a game, or just in general.
Ah! I see, I see. I've been out of the loop for a long time; the discussion was just starting (for all I know) when I was pretty much already leaving.
You seen the old LttP manga by Shotaro Ishinomori? It's like someone handed them that and said "maybe add another character but, basically, we want you to copy it EXACTLY."
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..and what's with the damn apples. That's also in the other LttP manga, by Cagiva. I wish SOMEONE would make a decent LttP manga/comic, it's so amazing, it really deserves it.
Dude, OMG, I have no idea what's even going on with the Zora- the change from the first 4 games, with Ocarina of Time, already had me confused. I gave it a little thought in WW and then was just like: "No, just stop. Nintendo doesn't even know so you're just going to hurt your brain." Like, if the world flooded, why would water creatures need to evolve into flying creatures, and vise versa...? D:
Time lines aside: maybe there was just an evolutionary split: The blue things became either birds or river hags? *brain hurt bad!*
Yes, I have, and YES. It seems that way, doesn't it? Akira's may look prettier, but Ishinomori's is far better overall. I feel bad for the girls though... since they've never played a Zelda game, and if Aonuma's not a fan, it's no wonder the manga stunk so much.
I haven't a clue about the apples either. Cause it's a common fruit? Cause it'd be cute? Cause it'd somehow tie in with Zelda? I don't know, and frankly, I don't care. I wish someone would make a decent aLttP graphic novel, too. That and a better OoT/Mm manga... Sorry, but they suck. Just watch. Akira's going to make a TP manga and it's going to be full of ridiculous things that didn't happen, and Link is going to be swooning idiotically over Zelda when clearly he was more romantically interested in Ilia and Midna, and Sheik's magically going to make a magical appearance, and Rito will fly out of Epona's butt, and it will all be canon and trufax!
lmao, yeah. I understand the evolution of each species concerning appearance and environment and all that jazz. I get it. It makes sense to a degree, but for all the Zora to evolve into Rito and just cease to exist would be a crime. Just like the loss of the Gerudo people. DDD; Now THAT makes me super depressed. Goddamn, I hope they're in the next Zelda game and not some little, fleeting homage in the form of a gypsy or cosplay. >:0
I used to have quite a hell of discussions about that years ago... and you are right, Mel, it ends up hurting your brain, and for not good reason.
So (frankly my dear) I don't give a damn... anymore.
I mean, I still like to imagine what the time line is like, but I don't go into boards to discuss it and try to make it sound like the indisputable truth. It's just not worth it. And besides, Nintendo wants people to have their own interpretations, so I say believe whatever you want, be happy with it and let it go. "nuff said".
PD: I thought Himekawa's ALTTP manga was cool.
It also depends on where exactly you debate the games to fit into the timeline. It can also be debated into the Zora -> Rito argument because of the symbolism involved in the actual game.
I for one believe in the Zora giving rise to the Rito, even if it IS quite an evolutionary gap. I think it's interesting, how a race of people so different from the sky was able to turn into what it was the polar opposite of what it was.
PHANTOM HOURGLASS MANGA. YES. I loved the Wind Waker Logs, so cute and funny like a four coma. XD
"I have to say though, the first Zelda game that I played and felt potential in was Link to the Past. I’m actually very interested in what it would be like if we remade that title as a 3D game."
Because it's always made me sad and angry that Miyamoto would do something like give so much of the series to a guy who didn't seem to love or get it. I simply do not understand why that always seems to happen in creative work places.
Until a Zelda game he touches becomes one of my favorites, I think I'll always feel he was, absolutely, the wrong person to inherit it.
I still don't know how to feel about Miyamoto passing the torch to Aonuma either. I feel the same way. Again, I seem to love/hate Aonuma for various reasons concerning the games he's directed, and agree it feels like he was the wrong person to take over Zelda. Although, he's proven me wrong before, considering I adore a lot games he was fully in charge of, but then there are those small but important things they seem not to get, and albeit small, can eclipse all the good points for me. :\
But, I don't trust the translation of what ever interview it was 100%
Maybe him wanting to do it in 3d is like Tim Burton wanting to redo Willy Wonka? This I never read, I only heard it from a friend, but they said he apparently didn't really like the original so he wanted to redo it how he thought it should be..? I dunno either.
Anyway, if not story, A Link to the Past did lack a bit of overworld "stuff", something that was later added in all other Zelda games, starting from Link's Awakening.
A Link to the Past is a great game for it's dungeons (still among the best ones in the whole series), not the simple plot or even the characters, in my opinion, since these things were developed much better in later games (even if less than the previous one in Twilight Princess, except Midna's characterization which is one of the best in all Zelda games in my opinion).
But I'm biased, since Aonuma directed what it's the best videogame ever made, in my opinion: Majora's Mask.
I don't even want to start talking about Majora's Mask here, a game that truly has a unique story and awesome characterizations, much more original than in any other Zelda game, too.
But, I believe that older games, for the fact itself that they were simpler, left more space to imagination, so it isn't so strange that you like A Link to the Past more: as you said, you played it as a child (or so I understood), and then you had a completely different experience than me, who played the game at around 20.
And that manga is pretty crap-tacular (I just personally love their style. *looks at pictures, ignores game content*)
That really makes NO sense. And so making a bunch of non-canon characters makes for a better story? Really? Quantity does not overrule quality!
The ALttP manga made such little sense and everything...they had a LOT to go with and they treated it so badly. How terrible u.u
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